is right now and where we are heading. it's exciting. "weekends with alex witt" starts now. it is the economy again. what does this all amount to politically? george zimmerman ordered back to jail. how key pieces of information led a judge to revoke the trayvon martin shooter's bond. massive security in london. the unprecedented effort to protect the historic weekend for the queen. we'll take you live to the unique event unfolding right now. in office politics, alex talks to "today" show's matt lauer. why this interview was one of his toughest ones ever. good morning, everyone. i'm very an veronica de la cruz in for alex. president obama heads back to washington where he touted his economic record despite tough new jobs numbers.

the president headlined three fund-raisers in chicago and spent the night at his home. he talked about how his policies helped the economy stabilize and grow. >> we have now seen over two years of the economy growing and jobs being produced. more than 4 million jobs being produced. over 800,000 produced just this year alone. now -- here's the thing, though. we are not where we need to be. we are not there yet. >> the new jobs report released earlier friday showed the u.s. adding just 69,000 jobs in may. the unemployment rose a notch to 8.2%. meanwhile, mitt romney is in san diego today for a fund-raiser. on contraction, romney seized upon jobs numbers. >> the president's policies and his handling of the economy has

been dealt a harsh indictment this morning. and it continues. we have had 40 straight months with unemployment over 8%. their policies have not worked, and in many respects, they policies have made it harder for the economy to recover. >> late yesterday romney turned over a 13-page annual financial disclosure report to the federal election commission. it shows romney's net worth falls between a range of $83 million and $255 million. the romney campaign released a narrower asset range between $190 to $250 million. joining me now for more front-page politics, amy gardner, national political reporter for "the washington post" and alex who is a reporter for "the national journal." good morning to you both. >> good morning. >> amy, we'll start with you, how are the white house and the obama campaign framing the new jobs numbers? is there any change of approach here? >> we haven't seen a change of approach yet. as your clips showed what

president obama said yesterday is what he's been saying all along, we are making progress but we have a lot more work to do. i think that message becomes more difficult to sell with the jobs numbers. the key number there is the 69,000 new jobs. it is drastically lower than what economists were expecting and drastically lower than the priest months. over the winter where we saw a couple months where jobs were added, over 200,000 in each month for two months in a row, it was a moment for obama to get more confident. we saw the confidence out in the country while he was speaking. and now this moment makes it much more difficult to say, we are making progress and i'm taking the country on the right track. >> alex, what's the general sense from political insiders on this latest news. the obama camp is saying the european economy is having a negative effect on the u.s. is this the most effective approach, would you say? >> well, you know, fairly or not, you know, the president is really going to suffer from this

unemployment report. and look, the bottom line is voters hold the president accountable regardless of what other kind of head winds he'll chalk up. so this is a real problem for him. >> all right. amy, let's go ahead and take a look at poll numbers now. these poll numbers just came out yesterday. president obama lead mitt romney overall 49% to 64 or 46%. that's within the margin of error. the president's supporters are more likely than mitt romney supporters to support these numbers. what do you think of all this? >> it would be very surprising if the jobs numbers don't change in the next few days and weeks. we all know that most americans think the economy is the number

one issue facing the nation. their top concern. and the number one issue driving their choice of president in november. so this jobs report is bad news for president obama. it reminds all of us, and i presume both campaigns, that this campaign is likely to be a referendum and president obama's stewardship of the economy as opposed to the choice that president obama is trying to frame the election as. so it would be shocking if these numbers and their dismal nature weren't reflected in polls as we go forward. >> alex, we want to go to the poll numbers right here and ask you your take on this. when it comes to independents, romney is is leading obama 51% to 39%. what do you think of this, is that expected? and how much of a margin can the president afford on that front? >> well, i think it is definitely another warning sign. let's not forget the president won 52% of independents only in

2008. now, their importance can sometimes be overstated in presidential elections. it's a question of just how many really true independent voters there are, but if mitt romney is giving a majority oaf 51%, that's going to be a problem for the president. that shows basically that the national political climate has kind of shifted against the president. and like you mentioned, obviously, this was before the latest jobs report. so you can have expectation that it will get worse for the president. >> i want to ask you about something you wrote in "the national journal," your latest article saying mitt romney's camp is not thinking that pennsylvania is in play. why is that? what do you mean by that? >> well, you know, i think there are just a few indications now, at least early on, they are skeptical they can win pennsylvania. "the new york times" reported they were talking to donors about all the different things they can win. they are listing states like virginia, iowa and ohio. pennsylvania is not part of the

perception. in fact, the state republican party chairman told mitt romney he doubted he could win the keystone state. so early on, let's not forget, you know, a republican presidential candidate hasn't won pennsylvania since 1988. george h.w. bush. it is a left-leaping state. and the fact is there are more appetizing options for the romney campaign right snow. >> amy, we'll bring you back in here quickly because we have to look at mitt romney's net worth, how does someone with up to $250 million reach the average voter? this seems to be a question that comes up a lot. >> well, you know, this is definitely a issue we have seen talked about on the campaign for many months. a couple points, one, the network we saw in the disclosure report is not news to most americans. people know governor romney is wealthy. they like his family. they like him. they are uncertain about the economy. again, going back to the point i

made earlier, i think that this election is going to be decided on how americans and voters feel about president obama's stewardship of the economy, which is why that's what governor romney is talking about. he has fed the narrative that he is out of touch with the middle class, those of us who sit around the table balancing their checkbooks. but a few gaffes, making statements that reflect a lack of understanding of how people without great means live their lives. i think that those are certainly defining issues that make people uncertain about whether he relates to them, but i still think this election rises and falls on the state of the economy. >> amy gardner, alex rority, thank you for your time. >> thank you. for the latest political headlines and analysis any time of day, go to msnbc.com's first

read. fight find it there at fistread @msnbc.com. in a surprise ruling, a florida judge ordered george zimer man's bond revoked after prosecutors say he and his wife both lied to the courts about their finances. the money that is in question comes from funds zimmerman raised on a website he set up for his defense. prosecutors claim the money totals more than $130,000. >> as he sat there as the court noted, the defendant sat there when he was aware of that money transferring from one fund to the other and that there was plenty of money. >> but zimmerman's attorney says it was an honest mistake by george and his wife. >> i do think that the zimmerman family was acting with constraints they thought they had. i don't think they believed they had free access to that money. and i think that was evident by the way they used it and didn't use it. >> zimmerman pleaded not-guilty to the shooting death of unarmed 17-year-old martin. we'll bring in our prormer

prosecutor karen desoto and defense attorney joey jackson. good morning to both of you. nice to see you. karen, we'll start with you. the prosecution saying he lied about the money, but the defense also saying it was an honest mistake. what do you say? >> well, i think it is a lot to do about nothing, actually. i think probably it would make more sense on the passport issue rather than on the money. because really a third party was handling the website, so how would they be able to know unless they got hourly updates. if it is 135,000 or 125,000, the judge believes he's deceived and can make the judge angry. you could land yourself back in jail. >> we'll talk about this deceit for a second. his wife was also involved, supposedly. could she be in trouble here? and let go ahead and bring you in here, joey. >> that depends. there's always a perjury charge that could be looming large, but the question is what did she

know and when did she know it? karen raises the point as to whether or not this was deception or whether it was just a misunderstanding. and that's exactly what will be the subject of some future hearing because, remember, the bond's been revoked but the gym said, come back in here with your client and explain how this misunderstanding occurred and if i'm satisfied we'll make a decision then. but, you know, perjury, i doubt she'll be charged. i think more of the focus will be on zimmerman and the credibility issue is important because, remember, what is his defense. i had to stand my ground. who knew whether he had to stand his ground. he did. he's going to be the main witness. and that judge who is deciding this bail issue will be the same judge deciding whether stand your ground is appropriate. that's why it is relevant. >> we know that you don't think he should have been ordered back to jail, but you think the passport issue here, there were two of them. why exactly do you think the passport is an issue or the two passports?

was he a flight risk? did they think he might be leaving the country? >> the whole purpose of doing the bail is flight risk. that's supposed to be the number one factor. the fact he didn't say, tell the court or hand in a second passport is very serious because if you're not mentioning to that court in the back of your head, you have to be saying, if you're a judge, maybe he's going to skip town or flee. but a lot of times with second passports they expire, so maybe there's a reasonable explanation. but that is enough to get you thrown back in jail. >> what do you think happened here, joey? >> that's a reasonable explanation. the whole i think thing is significant, whether you talk about the passport in and of itself or talk about the money, all of it is relevant because it goes to credibility. not only is it a liberty issue where he's out on bail, okay, and he's coming back, but it is an issue because if you lie about your passport and having a second one, but i'm only giving you one. and you lie about money and to extent to which you have it and it could be used, you say

nothing about it. then he's talking in code with his wife over the phone, they have these things. now it's a problem because when he goes to testify, the judge is going to be looking at him with a heavy dose of skepticism saying, is that really what happened, sir? but ultimately the judge will hear his story and he'll be granted bail. i think it will be significantly higher on his ability to pay, but i'm not concerned about that issue. i'm concerned for his sake when it comes to stand your ground, does the judge believe him. >> is he now going to be labelled a liar. >> that he is, karen. it's a problem. >> no stand your ground for him. no immunity for him, i don't think. >> joe and karen, thank you for stopping by. well, history is being made in britain. in less than an hour, england's queen elizabeth will launch a four-day diamond jubilee celebration in honor to mark her 60-year reign. some of the spectators are filing into one of the queen's favorite places.

she'll ride and go down her favorite course. tornadoes were reported out of pittsburgh and hampton, virginia. so far no serious injuries were reported. this video off the coast of virginia shows the offshore funnel cloud. in maryland firefighters rescued three teens caught in rushing water. now we'll head to bill karins for more. good morning to you, bill. good morning to you, veronica. what a friday afternoon and evening it was in the midatlantic and areas of new england. severe weather outbreak, one of the worst so far this year in the region. numerous tornadoes were reported. thankfully, no fatalities. 12 tornadoes were reported from southern pennsylvania down to the delmarva region and especially with the worst of the storms near the norfolk area, virginia beach. that's where a powerful waterspout came ashore and did significant damage. also notice all the blue dots on the map. those are wind damage reports of

downed trees on homes and cars and all sorts of wind damage. so what are we dealing with this morning? that line of showers and storms has weakened and is pushing off the coast, but new england still has rain from the storm system. happy to report we are not dealing with any severe weather today in areas of new england, but we have a gloomy saturday out there with lots of rain from boston to portland and to bangor. burlingtop, vermont, a cloudy and cool day for you. cool weather in the great lakes. the only rainy spot is new england. then late afternoon storms in florida. here's your saturday forecast, we have morning downpours to deal with up in new england. we are looking at a beautiful saturday in the southeast and the midatlantic trying to clean up from yesterday's storms is also looking good. if you want to plan your sunday. a pretty quiet weather day around the country with late afternoon storms in the plains. that's a look at your weekend forecast and a lot of cleanup from the big storms yesterday in the midatlantic.

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breaking news this morning. there was a violent reaction in egypt after the sentencing of former egyptian president hosni mubarak to life in prison. he egypt's former president was given the life term for killing protesters during last year's revolution. that uprising forced him from power. this comes in the middle of egypt's presidential election. a candidate from the muslimhood

is facing off. some startling information in two "new york times" this week. including attacking iran's nuclear computers and attacking terrorists with drones. joining me to discuss this is the co-author of the article of obama's secret kill list, jill, thank you for coming in this morning. >> thank you for having me. >> david singer wrote about what the united states is doing to slow down iran's nuclear ambitions, if you will. tell us about the article and what we learned from it. >> it was a fascinating, fascinating story. and it details how the united states now today had a covert cyber attack that basically attacked center parts of the centrifuges and literally caused them to spin out of control. we found the same thing in the drop program is what you really see is president obama's deep

involvement in the covert programs. >> let's go ahead and talk about these new types of methods, if you will. the cyber attacks and the drone strikes. does this signal a change in terms of boots on the ground, in terms of that menialty? >> well, certainly we now have the capability that wen't didn't have before. and now you see the administration making use of it. to be clear, though, both of the programs were inherited from the bush administration. they have just been ramped up. i think they comport with president obama's view, which he expressed during the campaign that he wanted to get troops out of iraq. he's now in the process of withdrawing troops from afghanistan. and so this is a way to go after terrorism and terrorists in a more, they believe, precise way. >> and expand on his philosophy,

has his philosophy on this type of war fair changed at all, specifically with the drone strikes and since he's taken office? >> well, it is interesting because i think that, you know, there was a series of close calls in 2009 that culminated in an al qaeda operative almost taking down a plane over detroit. and someone said it caused them to tighten their risks. early on what you saw was very early on us a strike that went badly and killed some civilians. and he was quite concerned about it. somebody told us that he was very sharp on the thing. he told the cia he wanted to approve strikes that didn't

have -- any strike that didn't have a pretty much zero chance of near certainly of zero civilian deaths to come to him, but what's interesting and what we learned in the reporting of it is that, first of all, the cia was always careful on civilian casualties, but more importantly the president embraced a building of casualties that essentially means that any military aged man in a strike zone wouldn't be counted as a civil an. so that allows some flexibility when you take a shot or don't take a shot. furthermore, he'll get more comfortable with it. his own standard on this, what's tested, the leader of the cia came to him and said, we have a leader of the pakistani taliban in our sights. so if we are going to take a shot, we are more than likely going to kill civilians. he's staying at the in-laws home. and his wife was there.

>> they actually make these decisions in something called terror tuesdays. >> actually, these are sort of operation decisions. so terror tuesdays is a policy meeting that takes place. and they talk about sort of the broad policy outlines. >> or the kill list, which you wrote about. >> the kill list and the operations are brought to the white house on an as-needed basis. this is not coming up every single tuesday, as you can imagine. so, we can talk about how this works. there are two methods by which the president sort of gets nominees, if you will, of people who should be put on this list. the first is they come to him through the cia. so the cia is sort of an internal process, mainly in pakistan involving people in pakistan. that then gets funneled up to john brennan, his counter terrorism chief, who can bat things back at any point if he

wants to. but ultimately if he's successful he'll bring it to the president. and on the department of defense side in somalia and yemen, al qaeda operatives there come through this nomination's process, which is an interagency process and people can essentially call out simple objections. well, what do you mean as the al qaeda facilitator? >> i know there's been a whole lot of controversy around this called the kill list in "the new york times." it was fascinating and a great read. jo becker, we are out of time but i appreciate you stopping by. great investigative work on your part. >> thank you for having me. >> thank you so much for stopping by. up next, your three big money headlines. we are looking for silver linings in the new jobs number. and here's a new one, the rich get poorer. we'll explain next. ♪

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welcome back to "weekends with alex witt." it is time for the three big money headlines. number one, where are the jobs? joining me is morgan brennan, staff writer for "forbes" magazine. good morning to you. >> hi, good morning. >> the unemployment rate ticked up. what is the take-away here. and is there any silver lining? is it all cloudy? >> i would say it is cloudy. we saw a meager 69,000 jobs added in the month of may. economists projected closer to 150,000 jobs added. so that was not particularly good news. adding to that cloudiness, we also saw the jobs numbers for april and march both push down. not as many jobs were created in either one of those months. i would say it is not particularly good news for the markets. and i guess if there is a silver lining, it is the fact that

health care is adding jobs right now. and so is the transportation sector. if you're looking for work there, you might be able to find it. >> health care and transportation. all right. a new report claiming that there are fewer millionaires in the united states, what is this about? why should those of us who aren't millionaires, why should we care? >> i guess this sort of takes the concept of redistribution of wealth to new heights. in america, what we are seeing from a new report from the boston consulting group, is what we are seeing in 2011 is we saw about 129,000 former millionaires lose that millionaire status in large part because of the stock market and the fact that we have seen such a rocky performance from that in the last couple of years. but on the flip side of that, what we are seeing is an increased number of millionaires in other places around the world, mainly e merging markets. perhaps not so surprisingly in places like asia, china, sing por, they are seeing more millionaires. it is not good news for america. it is also seeing less millionaires in europe.

perhaps not surprisingly, but we see the wealth spread out other places around the globe. >> interesting. a new report suggesting high-end home sales are on the rise, so could this have a triple down effect and then boost the entire market? >> well, high-end home sales, we are talking about the top 10% of each market is sort of its own beast. and perhaps going back to this idea about stocks not doing so well and us, millionaires potentially losing some of their wealth, the reason we are seeing the home sales tick up so much, one of the big reasons is because we are seeing wealthy people take some of their money and put it into hard assets like real estate and collectibles and premier property, we are talking about property in big cities that's ultra-exclusive. very high-end. this property is actually in very high demand and there's not a lot of inventory on the market. so we are seeing millionaires and billionaires snap up the properties because they believe they are good investments. we saw a $90 million penthouse

sold two weeks ago. a $34 million los angeles home sold just this week. so it's a big surge there. >> all right. morgan brennan, we appreciate it. thanks. in a few minutes, finger pointing in the oval office. matt lauer said this was one of the most contentious interviews ever. that's in office politics. [ horse neighs ] hold up partner. prilosec isn't for fast relief. try alka-seltzer. it kills heartburn fast. yeehaw! yoo-hoo. hello. it's water from the drinking fountain at the mall. [ male announcer ] great tasting tap water can come from any faucet anywhere. the brita bottle with the filter inside.  [ male announcer ] great tasting tap water can come from any faucet anywhere. it's time to live wider awake.

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and certain men... find a way to rise above. this is the land of giants. ♪ guts. glory. ram. welcome back to "weekends with alex witt." i'm very annika veronica de la cruz. the nbc news/marist poll shows president obama leading romney in iowa, colorado and nevada. in the context of the disappointing jobs numbers, how might that affect these swing states? >> i think it shows you why this race is so close right now. the fundamentals of this contest. you look at the economic numbers, the job numbers that

came out in may, but also it is important what came out in april. president obama actually had a single digit, high single-digit lead over mitt romney in a lot of state and nation polls back in the early spring. and that was after the economy was adding more than 200,000 jobs a month. everything seemed to be a lot better. then all of a sudden after the last two or three months, attitude about the economy have stalled. particularly when you add people's worries and frustrations over what's occurring in europe. the higher gas prices, although those have gone down. they have clouded people's move about the economy. and that does have a direct correlation with president obama's numbers. so when you end up getting a jobs report like the 69,000 number, you -- having these type of battleground races with mitt romney, having this contest should be no surprise to anyone. >> that's worrisome. switching gears, the late debate with the wisconsin governor took place thursday night. will scott walker -- what do you

think of this race, a referendum on anything nationally? >> it could end up having some type of impact on the presidential contest in wisconsin, but it is important to see what ends up hamming happening first in the state. the public polling shows scott walker has a single-digit lead over tom barrett, the milwaukee mayor in the recall race. democrats have their own polling to show it a much tighter race. i have heard from many democrats in wisconsin who say, look, this race is not over yet. we are gaining ground. this is going to be something to watch. but as far as what kind of impact it has on november, it's interesting to note that the one public poll that had scott walker ahead by 7 percentage points also had president obama ahead by eight percentage points. it is possible scott walker could end up winning his recall and democrats could be safe come november. but again, we still have a long ways to go. and veronica, as we just discussed, the jobs number could

have more of an ill pact of where wisconsin is than the recall. >> talking about mitt romney's record at bain capital, what do you take away from this big bain secret and why democrats don't seem to want to attack bain. is there something i am missing here? >> well, bill clinton was off message in praising mitt romney's sterling business record. but bill clinton ended up giving an interview just yesterday where he said, look, i was just pointing out how mitt romney is a successful businessman and is qualified to be president. he said, look, president obama would do a much better job and tried to walk it back. but we have a few things going on. there's always a little bit of a conflict between bill clinton and barack obama, even though bill clinton is fully on the campaign this time around. and it's no surprise that democrats in new york, washington, d.c., philadelphia

and new jersey are probably a little bit bigger fans of private equity than a lot of democrats in toledo and some of the industrial midwest states. >> mark murray, nice to see you. thanks so much. >> thanks. in this week's office politics, alex sat down with matt lauer and talked about what he thinks of the iconic jingle "where in the world is matt lauer" and he shared road stories. but she began by asking about one of the most memorable interviews when going face to face with george w. bush. >> i did and interview with president bush on the fifth an verse i of 9/11 that was contentious. the two of us were standing in front of the desk and we started talking about secret interrogation of terror suspects and he got very animated to the point where he was basically jabbing me in the chest. >> you can't expect me and people in this government to do what we need to do to protect you and your family if we don't have the tools we think are necessary. >> okay. which is always a difficult

scenario when you have the leader of the free world in the secret service so you really can't do it back. i think any time you go to the white house and do a live interview with the president of the united states, it requires a certain level of concentration. and you don't want to mess that up. you have to bring your a-game. those are always hard. but they can be incredibly rewarding. >> did you and president bush make amends in any way? i look at that picture of you, and he's signed a picture of you saying, nice abs. >> we have a very good relationship. it was just a particularly contentious subject. it was just at the time when people were questioning the necessity and the legality of the secret cia sites where terror suspects were being interrogated with enhanced interrogation techniques. and he felt very strongly that this was necessary. he didn't want to go into too many details because he thought it was still something that needed to be handled in secrecy.

he became very animated. when the interview was over, we resumed our normal relationship. it was just one of those moments in the interview where i think he truly wanted to make a point and state his side of the issue. and i felt the need to continue pressing him on it. >> what about the fact that you have this jingle, this "where in the world is matt lauer" jingle about you and where you go. ♪ >> good morning. i hope you had a nice weekend and didn't rack your brains too much to try to figure out where i am. >> more than anything else that everyone says to me, they say, where in the world is matt lauer? but, you know what, it is not irritating? what it really is is great. it says we created something on this show that caught on. and it resonated with viewers. and it was fun and informative and it was challenging. and from the selfish side of it, it allowed me to see places in the world i never would have seen were it not for the series on this show. i probably would have never gone to the slopes of montana everest

or to the oil or natural gas platform off the northern coast of scotland. when i was a young boy, maybe 12, 13 years old, my parents, my dad had a coffee table book on easter island. black and white photographs of the statues on easter island. and i used to sit in the living room looking through the book all the time and the beauty of that little island that was remote, as an island could be. and i said, one day i'm going to go there. when i went there for around the world, i was captivated by the place. one of the longer stops for me because it was the first stop of a weekend there. that stands out probably above all others. machu pitchu was incredible. bhutan was like going into a time what were, just like a place that i don't think americans had seen or heard of in some cases before we took

them there. >> what kind of a dad are you to jack, romy and tice? >> i am a doting father. i come from parents that never let a day go by where he didn't tell me he loved me. i'm a hugger and a kisser. my 8-year-old daughter sometimes rolls her eyes at me. my son who is 10 when i drop him off at school one day a week kisses me in the car so his parents don't have to see it. >> your love affair with golf, as evidence by the peacock-edged putter you have. >> we are not allowed to accept anything like that. so this one was from nbc, which i could accept it. my love affair of the sport goes back to my dad. my parents were divorced when i was 8 years old, so my weekends with my dad were enormous events for me. they were precious. he had a passion for the game of golf. so he taught me how to play it about nine or ten years old. and at that age it was less

about the sport and more about four hours with my father. >> and at 1:00 p.m. alex is back and continues her conversation with matt. they talk about how long he plans to stay with "today." his storied friendship with bryant gumbel and this. >> is there a dream-get interview that you have not gotten? >> and that answer at 1:30 p.m. one of the biggest security events in history. in fact, it's protect fit for a queen. we'll explain next. [ male announcer ] you sprayed them. thought they were dead. [ laughter ]

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massive security plan bigger than the royal wedding. we are live at epson derby where the queen will arrive in minutes. camilla, looks like a nice day there. this is a massive event. tell us about the security measures underway. >> reporter: well, there are snipers on the roof here and there's a huge police presence, but really that's because the keep is the main event here at the epson darby. she is celebrating her diamond jubilee. and these events are major occurrences taking place in london. they really do demand quite a crowd and therefore command a very big police presence, too. >> the queen is kicking off the horse race in about 15 minutes. that's one event. what else takes place over the course of the next few days? >> reporter: well, it's a busy weekend where the queen will be doing the things she loves most. she loves racing and is here at the derby.

she doesn't have a runner but will be following the horses. then she has a pageant on the river tems. we have a collection of many boats. the queen used a holiday with good sea legs. on monday we have a concert. but the finale is a tuesday at the cathedral where charles and diana married. then after the wonderful carriage procession of the likes we saw at the royal wedding. and the crowds will be lining the streets. we are expecting a lot of red, white and blue, because that's the big sendoff. the appearance at the buckingham balance to cap it off with a fly past overhead. >> camilla tony there in the u.k. we appreciate it. have fun today. >> reporter: thank you. getting america back to work. what's keeping employers from hiring? you're watching "weekends with alex witt."

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the economy is slowing. the big question, why aren't employers hiring new workers.

joining me is senior vice president for investments. good morning to you, jim. let's go ahead and answer that question. why are people not hiring? >> well, most new jobs come from small businesses. at the end of the day, small businesses care about one thing. they worry about the global economy and our own economy and all the things that we're going to talk about. but at the end of the day, what they see is people who are coming in the front door and what they're buying. consumers are facing higher food costs than they were a year ago. and we look at consumer savings and it's down to the lowest level since 2007. when you have poor sales and you're a small business owner, the last thing you're going to do is take on new employees. >> but it's not all bad news because hiring is actually up in some sectors.

i think health care, also m manufactu manufacturing, transportation, those numbers are all up. constructi construction, those numbers are up. >> i think health care is an industry that's going to continue to do very, very well. no matter what kind of health care you have, i believe this is based on the demographics of our population. i think this is going to be a bright spot in our economy for quite some time. also, manufacturing, some of the same things with jobs going overseas. we do more business overseas, too. 50% of our corporate profits come from overseas sales. so manufacturing, i think it's slowing a little bit because we have a slowing global economy. but i do think it's a bright spot of the economy. >> so when you say "global

economy," what do you make of the european debt crisis? the china bubble? how much of that is actually affecting that there aren't as many jobs here in the u.s. >> when you have your trading partners, and europe and china are the two largest that we have. europe and china are the top of international trade. the european economy is bigger than the united states trade economy from a standpoint. china and europe are slowing down, it means lower sales here. and that's, again, the number one reason businesses say they aren't hiring. when it's in the headlines every day, it creates uncertainty. and uncertainty is the boogeyman try to create scenes for the future.

i think it's going to be a tough economy for quite some time. we have so much in the system here in the u.s. and we have a slowing global economy. it's going to be tough, but i think our economy is going to continue to grow. >> it's nice to see you, thank you so much. >> nice to see you, too. >> and this is going to wrap it up. alex witt will be back tomorrow at noon eastern. straight ahead, more smart political talk on "up with chris hayes." and then at 10:00 eastern, it's melissa harris-perry. he was just... "get me an aspirin"... yeah... i knew that i was doing the right thing, when i gave him the bayer. i'm on an aspirin regimen... and i take bayer chewables. [ male announcer ] aspirin is not appropriate for everyone so be sure to talk to your doctor before you begin an aspirin regimen. so he's a success story...

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